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Was Edward Lasker related to Emanuel Lasker or not? Saying "He was distantly related to...but had no biological relationship with" doesn't make a lot of sense. Can someome provide a source that will show they were related? --Malathion 09:15, 14 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Lasker[edit]

I know that I read in one of Edward Lasker's books (The Adventure of Chess?) that someone had showed him a family tree indicating that he and Emanuel Lasker were distantly related. Krakatoa

From Edward Lasker's memoirs of the great 1924 New York tournament, published in the March 1974 Chess Life: "I did not discover that we were actually related until he (Emanuel Lasker) told me shortly before his death that someone had shown him a Lasker family tree on one of whose branches I was dangling." Somehow this report has gone unnoticed in a number of Lasker biographies. I've (lightly) edited the Edward Lasker page.

Bill-on-the-Hill 13:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see that someone tracked that down. Thanks. Krakatoa 20:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Lasker family seems to have been prominent in 19th century Germany (or whatever the states were called then). There is also the advertising mogul named Lasker whose photos seem to bear a resemblance to Edward Lasker -- I contacted the Lasker foundation to get confirmation but never heard back on this.

I corresponded with Edward Lasker in the 1970s. Just a few brief but prompt responses to chess questions. He had mentioned in The Adventure of Chess that he was prevented by his mother from playing Pillsbury in a simul and said that he ran away from home because of this, presumably to play in the simul but Lasker said in a letter that he never did play him.

I think Lasker, having lived so long, was an amazing link to the past of chess. I believe he must have met or played every world champion up until Botvinnik and perhaps later. He did not meet Steinitz but of course knew Em. Lasker. He mentions that his mother-in-law saw Morphy in New Orleans. It is possible that Lasker played someone who had played against Morphy, although I cannot find a definite example of this.--Jrm2007 (talk) 11:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am a Lasker and I have the Lasker Book and the Family Tree, Edward and Emanuel are related, this is a definite fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:30, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nice one. :)[edit]

"He was born in Breslau, then in Germany, and now in Poland."


To the given list should be added "Chess: The Complete Self-Tutor", a weighty tome I read in the Seventies and was surprised to learn was a recent offering by the five-decades-previously author of Chess Strategy. I don't know the ISBN number though. Captain Pedant (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another book that should be added is "The Game of CHESS" it is one I have sitting on my shelf. 1972 (c) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


The story involving Max Lange seems somewhat questionable since Lange died in 1899 when Edward Lasker was only 14. Can this be confirmed?Jrm2007 (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Odd, 1905, Max Lange was dead according to his wiki page, perhaps someone of the same name or is the wiki Max Lange page incorrect? ChessCreator (talk) 00:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just learnt there are two Max Lange's, both very good chess players.

Where did you learn this? Hard to believe there were two top 100 players, roughly contemporaries, with the same name.--Jrm2007 (talk) 19:31, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, was a bit surprised myself, but it indeed appears to be the case. Here is copy of Mibelz post from my talk page SunCreator (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi! The most famous Max Lange lived in the 19th century (1832-1899). Another Lange played at Hilversum 1903. See, for example: 1) Ludwig Fränkel: Lange, Max. In: Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie (ADB), 2) Litmanowicz, Władysław & Giżycki, Jerzy (1986, 1987). Szachy od A do Z., 3) Geschichte des Deutschen Schachbundes, 4) bio in, although with games of two different players (it should be change), 5) (Lange Max and Lange Max2), etc.
Best wishes, Mibelz 17:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional discussion here. SunCreator (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess this is sort of like Larry D. and Larry M. Evans -- two strong contemporary players.--Jrm2007 (talk) 01:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lasker's brother Berthold Lasker was, according to Chessmetrics, one of the top 10 players in the world in the early 1890's, but he stopped playing chess. Today, there are three unrelated grandmasters named Mikhail Gurevich, Dmitri Gurevich, and Ilya Gurevich. Then in related players, of course there's the three Polgar sisters - two GMs and one IM. Robert Byrne is retired these days, I think, but was a strong GM; his brother Donald Byrne was a strong IM and might well have gone farther if he hadn't had lupus, which killed him in his mid-40s. Krakatoa (talk) 06:47, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Breast Pumps[edit]

I would like to know where the story about breast pumps came from, since the USPTO lists O.H. Needham as having received patent No. 11135 for a breast pump in 1854, 31 years before Lasker was born. Here is the direct link to US Patent #11135. (You need Quicktime image plugin or Alternatiff plugin): —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added the cite: Lasker's Chess Secrets I Learned from the Masters, pp. 250-51. Here is a summary: Lasker was approached by Dr. I.A. Abt of Chicago, a pediatrician, who asked Lasker, an engineer, to design a machine he wanted for his Babies' Hospital to get mother's milk for premature babies who were too weak to nurse. "The ordinary hand-operated breast pumps or manual expression were unsatisfactory because they did not remove all the milk from the breast." Lasker took 18 months to design it, then another year to produce a practical machine that could be manufactured for a reasonable price. After the machine had been in use for two weeks at Dr. Abt's hospital, Lasker received a phone call from obstetrician Dr. Joseph B. DeLee, who thought his machine had a much wider field of application than Lasker had imagined. After working with it for a month, Dr. DeLee said he considered it indispensable in any hospital in which maternity work was done, and urged Lasker to put it on the market. He did, and made five times as much money as he had earned in his previous job. He derived a great deal of satisfaction from this work, though he had to endure the teasing of his friends who now called him "the chest player". Krakatoa (talk) 05:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See also the first paragraph of breast pump and the citations given there, and Patent No. 1,644,257 issued by U.S. Patent Office for Lasker's breast pump. I am no engineer, and have only a layman's understanding of breast-sucking, but Lasker's breast pump looks a lot more sophisticated than Needham's. I have revised the text in both articles, however, to reflect that other breast pumps were in existence prior to Lasker's. Evidently Needham's contraption sucked compared to Lasker's design, which really sucked. Krakatoa (talk) 06:39, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proposition for notable games[edit]

Game which is showed is one of classical and all-times best games. However, other bizarre case (when Lasker lose in attractive way) may be noted:

Edward Lasker vs Israel Albert Horowitz New York (USA) 1946 · Queen Pawn Game: Colle System (D04) · 0-1

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. e3 c5 4. c4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 e5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Nc3 d4 8. exd4 exd4 9. Nb5 Bb4+ 10. Bd2 O-O 11. Bxb4 Nxb4 12. Nbxd4 Qa5 13. Nd2 Qe5+ 14. Ne2 Nd3# CoyoteEWile (talk) 12:08, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This still-living person bears some resemblance to him. Important to resolve soon, I think.--Jrm2007 (talk) 22:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, it seems that she is his niece.--Jrm2007 (talk) 13:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Haldane Porter[edit]

It is probable that this is Sir William Haldane Porter who was, after 1920, HM Chief Inspector of the Immigration Service. User: Agent1135 —Preceding undated comment added 06:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Update the part that says "Although Lasker never won against Capablanca"[edit]

Apparently he won? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That victory was by the former world champion, Emanuel Lasker, then a mere lad of 66 years old. This article is about his namesake Ed Lasker. Quale (talk) 00:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


See also Chess, the complete self-tutor, which I remember seeing in the mid-1970s, a good half-century since Chess Strategy. On a quick search I can't find the ISBN but I'm sure someone can. Captain Pedant (talk) 19:27, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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